Episode 05|06/22/26

Charlie Holtz

The Tool That Builds Itself

Draw the line, then automate everything inside it. Speak into your computer to write code, but never let the agent be your architect.

The Guest

Charlie HoltzCEO & Co-Founder, Conductor

Founder of Conductor, a YC-backed tool for orchestrating fleets of coding agents in parallel. Previously a Hacker in Residence at Replicate and a quant at Point72.

The Stack Monitor — 15 tools

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The Analog Stack

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  • N
    Notebook
    Basically just scribbles to get some ideas down.— Charlie
  • A
    Attention Flag
    Headphones on means don't talk to me. Flag up means can we chat?— Charlie
  • D
    Desk Mic
    José Valim recommended this. We're trying to make it okay to speak into your computer.— Charlie
  • Vertical MouseThe analog objects are the rituals that make the digital sprint possible.— Charlie

Stack Specificity

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  • ConductorFive instances open at once — Prod, Beta, Alpha, Tripoli, Chicago. Conductor building Conductor.— Charlie
  • ZedThese apps have become my review surfaces.— Charlie
  • NotionArchitecture lives here, written by humans. Don't let the AI be your architect.— Charlie
  • SpokenlyThis is Spokenly, not Whisper. Speak into the computer to write code.— Charlie
  • ClaudeAware of the Granola markdown. Institutional knowledge becomes skills.— Charlie
  • GranolaMeeting notes the agents can read. I want it running on every internal meeting.— Charlie
  • RaycastI tried Spotlight. It's just slightly slower.— Charlie

Conductor's Operating Principles

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  • Fly.ioSprites — persistent VMs for isolated coding agents. That's Conductor Cloud.— Charlie
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    /Skills
    Take what you've learned about writing React and translate it into something the agents can use.— Charlie

Hacks in Progress

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  • OpenClawLord Crandon: workout coach, support triage, Reddit scout. Eventually the whole company.— Charlie
  • GhosttyWhere the personal stack lives. I'm trying to get more and more of my life into this.— Charlie

In Their Words

“We have this principle which is, don't let the AI be your architect. When you're building out a big new part of the codebase, it's pretty important still to have humans driving that.”

— Charlie

“We are obviously very pro AI writing code, but we are very anti AI writing. You can smell it from a mile away.”

— Charlie

“I think it's interesting to take your institutional knowledge and translate it into skills that your agents can then use.”

— Charlie